The Evil Grind: a 2026 update

Join us for an update from Evil Prints! We talk about Huck's latest studio projects, including his ongoing Bonnie and Clyde series, and follow up on St Katalyzmas and the Giant Rat. Hear Huck's thoughts on upcoming events, commissions, and the creative process behind his large-scale triptychs, and get insights into his nostalgic reflections on 1985.  Plus- find out what is Huck reading and listening to these days.

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Transcript

Darcy 0:56

Okie doke. Hello Huck.

Huck 0:57

Hey, what's going on?

Darcy 0:59

Welcome back.

Huck 1:00

What do you wanna know?

Darcy 1:02

We're gonna do a little shop update. I'm gonna check in

Huck 1:06

current events,

Darcy 1:07

a little current event. I want to catch up on studio projects and touch base on some things we talked about previously.

Huck 1:17

Okay. Alright.

Darcy 1:18

Let's start with the. Christmas print wrap up. So we had the Christmas print for sale, St. Katakyzmas.

Huck 1:24

They sold out

Darcy 1:25

and the giant rat sold out.

Huck 1:27

It's completely sold out, which is cool. And I've decided that St. Kataklyzmas and the Giant Rat, I'm gonna do a Christmas print every year. We're gonna do it the same format, how it was available online and in person. Very few online and a lot in person. The reaction was fantastic, and I think I'm going to make Saint Kataklyzmas the main character in every Christmas print.

Darcy 1:57

Oh, that's cool.

Huck 1:58

He, he, he is gonna be doing wreaking havoc in every single scenario that I put out there for the foreseeable Christmases. Oh. So there's that. Have no idea what the next one's gonna be.

Darcy 2:09

That's awesome.

Huck 2:10

But, but it was great. People loved it. It, it really thanks to everyone out there that, that went online and got it, got a copy of it, and especially thanks to all the folks that showed up to the VIP party on Friday night, picked theirs up and all the great amount of people that came by on Saturday at the Evil Prints Vault to pick up theirs and it's great. That

Darcy 2:37

was awesome. Yeah,

Huck 2:38

a

Darcy 2:38

great event. That's a great print and I, I love that it's gonna feature St. Kataklyzmas going forward too.

Huck 2:44

Every year. Every year. So there, there's your uh, St. Cataclysms update.

Darcy 2:49

Alright. So let's talk about another project that we talked about. Real on what? Let's get an update on the Hatch Show project. Bonnie and Clyde.

Huck 2:59

American Fury, the Truth and Lies of Bonnie and Clyde. I finished number eight a couple of weeks ago,

Darcy 3:09

Out of how many

Huck 3:10

11 is in the series and uh, the last three are going to be. Very hard to do because they're very dark and a couple of surreal images are in there, sort of different than the set. I know I'm talking and no one really out there seeing these well coded, uh, but I'm, I'm keeping pace on those. Like it's, um, I work, I'm working on a large. Thing right now that has nothing to do with that. And I'm working on the small Bonnie and Clyde's. I can do one of those Bonnie and Clyde prints blocks, which are 11 inches by 10 and three quarter. So why not just make'em 11 by 11? I have no idea. But those don't take that long. They, I can do one of those in about three weeks. Um, but I jumped back and forth between the small block and the large block and. I gotta be honest with you, it's getting hard to, it's been hard to work here the last few months. I go in every day. I do my hours of carving, but I don't know, there's something going on with me. I don't know what it is. I think it has to do with the current state of events in the world. Um, I think. I've sort of made my career about making fun of shit. Now I'm oversimplifying and satirizing the current state of my surroundings, immediate and otherwise, and when the reality outstrips what you could possibly do. Satirically? Mm-hmm. When every news article, every news update is like an onion page and you don't know whether it's the onion or not. It's really hard. It puts a damper on, I mean, which I think a few years ago, like with doing a Monkey Mountain Chronicle, I started working, and I've said this before, more metaphorically and allegorically, more surreal, so I'm not just spelling it out for the viewer. I'm, I'm taking them on a more roundabout journey that they can fill in their own blanks. So that's kind of where I reside these days, but. Aside from the having a hard time satirizing society these days, it's also just a, it's a negative, depressing time.

Darcy 5:32

It's a, a deep disappointment in society that I feel like is hard to shake. It's hard to shake off the feeling. Then go do something else and try to switch tracks and pretend that it's not happening.

Huck 5:47

it's also, I was talking to a friend of mine about this. Um, there's this weird longing I find myself longing for. Nostalgia for from a a certain time period more than others. And, and for me it's like 1985. I was like 13 years old and. I don't know if it, probably part of it is just being a kid, because I was drawn my daily studio routine when I was 13. I was drawing chicks, hot rods, army men, and and kiss. Okay. I was drawing stuff like that and. That was my, other than the chicks part, that was my immediate surroundings. Okay. And what was going through my head? Well, the chicks were going through my head for sure, but like, I wasn't, like, I wasn't able to get any to model for me. Um,

Darcy 6:46

it's probably good

Huck 6:47

I had thought about it even at 13, but like, so it was, it, it's a longing for nostalgia. Based on all of the stuff that surrounded that date, okay. In my mind, the days were sunnier, the music was exciting, more exciting. My discoveries of art were so new.

Darcy 7:08

Mm-hmm.

Huck 7:09

Like I remember in like 19 85, 9 6 86, I found out who Francis Bacon the painter was, and it was just blew me away. Yes. You can never get back. To finding that stuff again.

Darcy 7:22

Mm-hmm.

Huck 7:23

What it's like when you first see or hear great art, you tend to like that stuff for your whole life.

Darcy 7:30

Right.

Huck 7:32

But times are so depressing right now that it's made me go back and think about times. That were not like this.

Darcy 7:44

Yeah.

Huck 7:44

I mean, my daughters, you know what they're gonna think about COVID?

Darcy 7:50

Yeah.

Huck 7:51

Okay. The same age they were the same age. Like I'm talking about, they're gonna think about C you know, what's it in office? Um, constant. Chaos every day. We didn't have cell phones in 1985. We didn't know that. The only news that you got was, first of all, no 13-year-old in their right mind is reading a newspaper, so you're blanked out of that. You're blocked out of that, I should say. Second of all, the only news you got if you were a 13 or 14-year-old was on TH three channels, right? A, B, CN, BC and CBS, maybe PBS.

Darcy 8:32

Yeah.

Huck 8:32

So you were shielded as a child from all this. You're not shielded anymore. My daughter's Delilah and Clementine, they have phones that get updates of everything that's going on all the time.

Darcy 8:46

It, it is psychologically creating more depression and,

Huck 8:51

and when I sit there and I'm drawn in the studio, I got all my projects going right. It kind of starts to feel like you're the, the band playing on the Titanic. You, you know what I mean? Calm down

Darcy 9:06

with the ship.

Huck 9:06

Just completely in denial.

Darcy 9:08

Just, yeah.

Huck 9:10

I mean, it, it feels weird like that. I go back and forth. I mean, I still get up and, you know, this is what I do. I, I'm working on a print right now. One of my, my big to get it back around to. What I'm working on, I'm working on a, one of my big triptychs slow because I'm, I've had to do the Dolly Parton print. I did the Christmas print, you know? Mm-hmm. I've done a couple of other things and I got Bonnie and Clyde going on, so it's slow moving on the big next big triptych, but I'm on the second panel of it. It's all about global warming, um, which oddly enough. You don't hear that much about.

Darcy 9:47

Mm-hmm. It's not really at the, the forefront of people's minds at the moment.

Huck 9:51

No, because you, if you've got, um, you know, if you have, if you have a leak in your kitchen and it's a bad leak, but the toilet in the bathroom. Spewing up sewage from all of the people in town coming into your house, you're gonna deal with the toilet. The small leak in the, in the kitchen doesn't seem as bad, right? Mm-hmm. So I'm thinking, this is what I'm thinking about all day. I think it like this, the way that I'm talking to you, you know? Yeah. And I, I get into the studio at like nine o'clock every morning. Nine, get the cat fed, and. I walk the cat, which is a whole other thing. His leash. His leash. We do that and then I come back up, make coffee, and then I work, go back down the studio. And I told you the other day, I told you today, the walk down a couple of days ago, because this is right after the Minneapolis shooting. Right? Okay. The walk down to the studio, which is about. Uh, 40 seconds. Yeah. Probably in that time I actually had the first real thoughts of how do I get outta here?

Darcy 11:03

Mm-hmm.

Huck 11:04

I've never had that before. What would it take to move everything? We can't. We can't. We're stuck. So I gotta make work in that. And I used to kid about how. When I do my artist talks, I used to keep, make a joke, a little one-liner about how the plague years were great for art.

Darcy 11:32

Yeah.

Huck 11:32

All that stuff that I love came from the plague years. Well, the new line is never gonna be boy. The era of the Degenerates was great for making Prints Hitler the censorship.

Darcy 11:48

Yeah.

Huck 11:48

That era, no, as, and it's not that you're romantic about it, obviously, but like the degenerate era, it backfired on mm-hmm. The Nazis, because basically a lot of people saw the, it's the biggest mo, one of the most famous art exhibitions, the degenerate show in Berlin or wherever. Of all time.

Darcy 12:12

Right.

Huck 12:12

And those artists that were in that show are extremely famous and the works are beloved. Okay. It always, but I'm, I don't think that Kitz or Kirchner or Heckle or Beckman or, or any of them in the time were jazzed about it.

Darcy 12:32

No. Yeah. Yeah.

Huck 12:33

Okay. So, I feel kinda. Like, we're there.

Darcy 12:40

What does that mean for artists working right now?

Huck 12:43

I don't know if it's just me, but it's hard. It, it's, it's hard right now. I didn't realize that. I didn't, I guess I didn't realize how, when you make work that's social commentary based. How, how, um. Dependent, you are in everything being okay in your life. Taking pot shots at, at people and the man. Mm-hmm. You know, it's rough. It, it's just rough. I think of Kollowitz, it's all the time, you know, but with this, I, I think about, mm-hmm. Repressive, oppressive, I should say oppressive regimes. That are anti-art. And so I'm, I'm thinking about this all fucking day long while I'm working out there in the studio and I'm lucky that I get to go, you know, so

Darcy 13:33

the Smithsonian just took down the, text regarding Trump's impeachment more of the cow towing,

Huck 13:42

look, this is not gonna last. I hope not. It's not. It's not, these things don't come to a good end. Let's just go with Caesar. Okay. Napoleon. Okay. Marie Antoinette, not a good one. Mm-hmm. Pole pot not good. You know, I mean, go to the Mussolini. I mean, this is, but, but it, it's, they, I think they, they operate on it. It can't, it won't be me though. Not us. We're smarter than they were. But aside from all that, just what I've got going on in the studio, it's been a little bit of a hard haul here. The last, right, the last few months I would say. It's on everybody's mind all the time, you know?

Darcy 14:31

Mm-hmm.

Huck 14:31

So what else, what else you got?

Darcy 14:32

So here, what else you

Huck 14:33

wanna know?

Darcy 14:34

Let's go back to that current studio project that you're working on.

Huck 14:36

Which one?

Darcy 14:37

So the Triptych. Mm-hmm. Tell us about that a little more. And where you're at. You're on the second panel?

Huck 14:42

I'm on the second panel and this time I did it, oddly enough, I did the outside panels before the center panel. Mm-hmm. Because originally it was gonna be a diptych and it was a commission that I've turned into one of the big triptychs, um, it was gonna be a diptych and it's a sponsored and, um, commissioned by. Uh, a woman named Tamara Keef who owns Clementine's Ice Cream throughout the St. Louis region. Mm-hmm. She's a really good friend of mine and she basically just summoned me to a meeting at a coffee shop and we were allegedly were just catching up on bullshit, you know,'cause she's my friend and she was like, Tom, I want you to do a print for me. I go, okay. And she was basically, well, you know. I just want, you can do whatever you want. I just want the block and I want,

Darcy 15:30

whoa,

Huck 15:31

I want half the addition or whatever. Maybe more than that. And, and I was like, Tamara. I mean, I'm like, I've got the next like four years planned out here. That's the way I work. And I'm like, this is expensive. And she's like, I'll give you x thousands of dollars today in cash. She had it with her right there. Holy mom. And, and I go. That's only half. And I go, okay, I'll do it.

Darcy 15:56

But she said, that's only half.

Huck 15:57

I go, that's, I said, that's only half what she had on hand, Uhhuh. And so she paid me with a big wad of money and I said about planning on this triptych. This,

Darcy 16:09

the double

Huck 16:09

warming dip, diptych for her. Mm-hmm. And because she just wanted, we just came up with it right there. I'll just do two panels because it's something I've never done before. And then because it takes me so fucking long, this was two and a half years ago that she gave me the, she paid me and I've kept her completely up to date. And uh, I'm getting really close to finishing the second outside panel.

Darcy 16:34

Mm-hmm.

Huck 16:34

It's called the Big Melt Up and it's about global warming. The Her only stipulation was that it be ice cream themed.

Darcy 16:44

That's cool.

Huck 16:46

And that's it. So in the Monkey Mountain Kronikle, there was some ice cream stuff in there.

Darcy 16:52

Mm-hmm.

Huck 16:54

So I kind of took a character Oh cool. For Monkey Mountain. Chronicle called Mr. Swirly licks. You

Darcy 17:01

Mr. Swirly Licks! I like it!

Huck 17:03

Mr. Swirly licks is from, uh, he, he's, uh, I came up with that guy'cause there's a ice cream chain out here in the country called licks and they have these giant ice cream cone props in the front yards of the ice cream places and licks. And so I came up with a character. I put eyes on it on the big. Ice cream prop and turned it into an active character in a monkey Mount Chronicle. He's on top of one of the roofs of, the Snoot sales restaurant.

Darcy 17:40

Oh, cool.

Huck 17:40

With the three servers of death, uh, serving snoot sandwiches via Nazi rollerskating, waitresses clan, Nazi rollerskating waitresses. So anyway, Mr. Swirly licks is on top of that. Um, there was, there all my pe, all my characters that I come up with, they all have names, whether they're told to people or spelled out in the titles or not, they all have names. And so Mr. Swirly Licks in the first panel is bombing a giant. Outdoor summer gathering that's hot. He's bombing them in a plane with Popsicle missiles that are flying off the plane going into the giant swimming pool, which it's melting them on contact and people are like dodging them or not. And so it's called that one's, he's got a, a flag beat the heat. So that's the first panel. Um. And then the second, the out the right handed side panel mm-hmm. Is called, uh, save the Pales and it's all people cooking in the sun while climbing. Mountain climbing a gigantic ice cream snowman and falling off as they climb, being shot at, beat on as they climb. And I got that totally from the martyrdom of the 10,000 by Durer. That print, I totally ripped that one off. And uh, there's the giant ice cream snowman with. Stick arms, a corn cob pipe and a button. Nose and eyes made of coal, um, is in a sort of sundae boat being rode in a black pond by rats in Nazi helmets. Fuck was explaining this. It sounds ridiculous. It's up in the studio. You just, you've seen

Darcy 19:48

seen it. No, I ha I know I have, but like people are gonna wanna see this when they hear this explanation.

Huck 19:52

I know. We can put some, we can throw some detail hints out there. And there've been on Instagram. There've been some, some hints. Teasers. Yeah, a little teasers. I haven't told the title or anything yet, but it's really the triptych. It's called the Big Melt up. And then as soon as I finish, um, this other side panel. I'm gonna do the large center panel.

Darcy 20:13

Mm-hmm.

Huck 20:14

And, uh, that is about a place called Times Beach in St. Louis that was infected with dioxin back in the mid eighties, and they had to evacuate the entire town. And I remember growing up, and it turns out that my dad, because he was a cheap motherfucker, he went up when he heard about this and they did a sale of. Appliances from people's house at Times Beach. And my dad got the dishwasher, got a dishwasher and we, he, we used that dishwasher from a dioxin infected town. Oh,

Darcy 20:48

well that doesn't seem

Huck 20:48

great. Turned out fine though. I turned out fine. So anyway far, you know, dad, I give dad shit about that. Obviously my dad was cheap, so he, so it was a dioxin sale. Okay, now. It's, so the joke with this center panel is gonna be So Times Beach? Mm-hmm. There's no beach, there's no water near it. Oh. So the, this is gonna be a, a gigantic. Surfing competition of toxicity and water and everything. Oh, with, with it's, you'll see. But have you

Darcy 21:21

already gotten it in your sketchbook

Huck 21:23

Yeah. I've sketched it out already in my, in my over many months. I've got it pretty much down. Um, it'll be significantly larger than the side panels. Okay. So, um. I'm dying to start that. Yeah. Um, probably I'm going to end up starting that in March. I'm outta wood. I gotta go, I gotta go get some sheets of wood from, uh, St. Charles hardwood in. Uh. Near St. Charles. Mm-hmm. Uh, I gotta go do that. I'm totally out of big sheets of cherry'cause I use cherry plywood. Mm-hmm. And then I'm really anxious to finish that, which it'll be about a year, a year and a half before I finish the center panel, because I've got my next, the next project after that. Is a big one. And y'all are gonna kill me because we're, it's gonna be like eight foot by eight foot.

Darcy 22:24

Oh yeah. That's gonna be awesome.

Huck 22:25

Yeah. Well, the problem is printing.

Darcy 22:27

We're gonna print it on.

Huck 22:27

Yeah, we're gonna have to print two sheets and g glue'em together.

Darcy 22:30

Oh my God. That sounds fun.

Huck 22:31

Yeah. And it's all about an indoor NRA gun theme park. Okay. With roller skating. Gun girls

Darcy 22:48

love this idea.

Huck 22:50

I'm glad you do. Of

Darcy 22:52

going bigger.

Huck 22:53

Well, the thing about that is going bigger is awesome, but I'm getting older. Your hands are gonna, and people don't. Well, no, it's not my hands, it's my shoulders and my elbows and my eyes. The PE folks don't realize. How physical those blocks, big blocks are. Mm-hmm. And how draining and mentally demanding big projects are. Size aside, the day to day for four years, four and a half years, consistently having to work on something for a four to five year period. That's what I've got ahead of me here, and I've gotta tie up some projects. Before I start that I have to finish Bonnie and Clyde, and I have to finish this, this triptych

Darcy 23:49

and the three divas.

Huck 23:51

Don't even talk about the three divas. Yes, I have. I am going to have that going on

Darcy 23:56

simultaneously.

Huck 23:57

Yes.

Darcy 23:57

Okay.

Huck 23:58

Yes. All right. What next? What else do you know?

Darcy 24:01

What's going on in your sketchbook right now?

Huck 24:03

Well, what, what I've been dealing with in my sketchbook is, is prep for the third panel of the big melt up. Oh, okay. The third panel of the triptych I'm working on, um, more planning out of the last three in the Bonnie and Clyde project. Um, I've got, I don't have, I'd have to really start hitting that hard this week coming up and, you know. What I typically have to do now is I have to force myself to do a drawing day.

Darcy 24:34

Mm-hmm.

Huck 24:36

Which I always like once it gets started, because like a day where, okay, today I'm just drawing in the sketchbook. I've got one of those coming up because I'm getting really close to finishing. Uh, I, I've got roughs. Of the third center panel.

Darcy 24:55

Okay. But you need one more drawing.

Huck 24:56

I gotta do one more res, what I call a resolved working drawing. Okay. Which means that I have to get it to about, it'll be about a five by five inch size in the sketchbook. It won't be super, super detailed, but the basic, slightly beyond the basic elements will be there.

Darcy 25:14

Mm-hmm.

Huck 25:15

So that I can work out. The other final details as I go on the large block, once I have that in front of me, the large block,

Darcy 25:24

so is this one that's gonna have like notes around it and

Huck 25:27

Yeah. Like you've seen before. I always do post-it notes because if I stop drawing at a certain point, one day I gotta know where to pick back up the next day. You know, I, I do that.

Darcy 25:35

Yeah.

Huck 25:35

Lots of stuff on the wall around it from visual reference, that kind of thing. Mm-hmm.

Darcy 25:40

Oh,

Huck 25:40

and it's been a long time since I've worked on one that big,

Darcy 25:43

yeah. What

Huck 25:44

before Chronicle? This is gonna be, the center panel is going to be almost five feet by seven feet probably. It's a big one. Is

Darcy 25:51

that same as Baloneyland?

Huck 25:52

No, no. Baloney Land's bigger. Baloney land's like a four and a half by eight. Four and a half foot by eight and a half foot.

Darcy 25:59

Oh, okay.

Huck 26:00

Yeah. A bit. So

Darcy 26:02

it's slightly smaller,

Huck 26:03

slightly Oh, it's, it's good. Substantial. Yeah. It's good amount. Smaller. And also, I'm not totally final on that size Exactly. But it's gonna be ballpark.

Darcy 26:12

Yeah.

Huck 26:12

You know, I, I, one of the things I like about, about doing that kind of work is I, I do like, I do like the drawing on the block. Mm-hmm. A lot. But I also, like, once I do move to the, the carving part. I do like the day-to-day blue Collary go to work, work on a section, getting lost in the project. The best part of all these projects are planning them. That's my favorite part's. I like the sketching, the planning, and the imagining.

Darcy 26:48

Mm-hmm.

Huck 26:49

That's my favorite part.

Darcy 26:51

I always feel like the carving, it's easier to get like automatic in though, because you've already planned out.

Huck 26:59

There's no automatic with the carving. I have to think about every single line as I carve it. Every line,

Darcy 27:05

even though you've already drawn up the exact space it's gonna take.

Huck 27:08

Yeah. I rethink every one of those lines more than what I did when I was putting them down. Drawing.

Darcy 27:15

Oh, okay. So you're, are you, I feel like it always looks identical.

Huck 27:22

It isn't. It is not. It is not

Darcy 27:25

really.

Huck 27:25

There are swells and tapers that happen that are not in the drawing, um,

Darcy 27:30

by design as you carve?

Huck 27:32

Yep. Yeah. That's why all these cunts that say, well Huck, you know, you could do all this with the CNC router. Hey, dipshit. No, because you don't know what you're talking about. I'm making, I'm altering the drawing. Through the carving.

Darcy 27:46

Mm-hmm.

Huck 27:46

It's not,

Darcy 27:47

I do mostly white lines, so that's what I have it all. I'm like, damnit.

Huck 27:49

Yeah. Well

Darcy 27:50

figure it all out.

Huck 27:51

When you look at Durer's prints, like when when Durer got famous, he stopped carving his own blocks.

Darcy 27:57

That's what I was gonna ask you at any point. If

Huck 27:59

no,

Darcy 28:00

as you age,

Huck 28:00

you use a from

Darcy 28:01

Schneider?

Huck 28:01

No, no, no.

Darcy 28:03

It's too far. Too far removed.

Huck 28:06

I'm a control freak. You know? I'm gonna tell you what though. There's only one person I know because I asked her, there was a moment where we were gonna have to do this.. But it turns out because of COVID, it didn't happen. There's only one person I would have carve and it's Nicci, Nicci Arnold, who works for us. Mm-hmm. Nicci would be the person I would bring in to carve something for me.

Darcy 28:26

Her level of detail.

Huck 28:27

She's great. She's got the hands for it and she has the attention to detail for it. Yeah. And she's slow and she doesn't rush anything. When you look at Durer's blocks after he got famous, they're still cool. Mm-hmm. But they got more, um, what's the word, uniform. If you look at Samson. The lion. The black areas that are in his blocks, they're swells to black, that taper to thin lines.

Darcy 28:59

Mm-hmm.

Huck 28:59

And there's not, there's plenty of crosshatching shading, but the there you can just tell there of a different stylistic. Hand. Mm-hmm. Where you could tell that he was altering lines as he carved it. This is real inside baseball printmaking, geek shit that, but like when, when he handed off his designs to someone else, they just carved out the lines. They didn't alter those lines. They were following his guide. They're still great. They're still amazing because the fucker drew those things on there. Right. But yeah, like I believe like the apocalypse and some other one-offs.

Darcy 29:36

Yeah,

Huck 29:37

were done by him when he was 27. when, when he got to 28, 29, he was super freaking famous. And so he had a workshop

Darcy 29:45

met standards. He was also pretty old, so

Huck 29:46

then, yeah. Yeah. Totally.

Darcy 29:48

But, okay, so this is, I'm actually jumping around now'cause we got, but I wanted to go back to, you brought up the, you were starting, um, the Clementines piece. As a diptych and it moved to a triptych

Huck 30:02

uhhuh.

Darcy 30:03

So when that happens, does that change the cost and do you have to clear that with the buyer?

Huck 30:07

No, I, it is the first time this has ever happened and I just told her, I go, Hey, guess what Tamara? I'm turning it into a triptych. And she goes, oh, really? And then she got real excited because I think she's probably gonna have to buy some of the center panel prints, which is great.

Darcy 30:20

Yeah.

Huck 30:21

You know, but she was cool with it, I told her.

Darcy 30:23

So it's a, so it will be an additional cost to, to,

Huck 30:26

yes.

Darcy 30:27

Okay.

Huck 30:28

Price changed.

Darcy 30:29

Alright, so the price changes.

Huck 30:30

Yeah. But, but she could say, no, I don't want the other, I don't want the center panel. Okay, cool.

Darcy 30:34

Okay,

Huck 30:35

that's fine. Then

Darcy 30:35

that would be the same,

Huck 30:36

but like, I retained the block, I retained the prints because it wasn't part of the original thing, but I'm still getting paid for two of the three panels.

Darcy 30:42

Okay.

Huck 30:43

Yeah.

Darcy 30:43

Cool.

Huck 30:44

That is very unusual. Mm-hmm. First of all, it's unusual to get prompted into a, these triptychs are not commissioned. Ever. None of them are, they're all my work regular data. This is highly unusual and I, I just couldn't resist turning it into my own, like a, a bigger project.

Darcy 31:05

Well, it's funny because it's also what you just did with Dolly.

Huck 31:09

I know. Pretty, I know there's something about me in threes. I don't know what it is. I did, I changed the Dolly into a, I think it's gonna be three of them.

Darcy 31:17

All right, so what about any up and coming events? You got any shows coming up, you've got things you're popping

Huck 31:24

up. I'm doing a, uh, I'm going to Houston to do a sketchbook workshop at Burning Bones Press with Carlos Hernandez.

Darcy 31:32

The Rock and roll one.

Huck 31:33

Yeah, the rock and roll one. Check it out on Burning Bones is uh, Instagram Carlos Electric Cavera. He's got stuff up about it. That's gonna be in February 21st, I think. A couple days and then share some, and then this spring we've got New York.

Darcy 31:48

Oh yeah,

Huck 31:49

we got print week in New York.

Darcy 31:51

Mm-hmm.

Huck 31:51

Which w you unfortunately are gonna be wanting to kill me For a whole month before that. Uh, and. Bayou. It came from the Bayou back down in Houston, which we have where I'm gonna be at that, which I go every year to that.

Darcy 32:08

Is that April also?

Huck 32:08

April? Yeah. It's like two weeks before print week.

Darcy 32:13

Print week is April 8th.

Huck 32:15

No, it's

Darcy 32:16

not.

Huck 32:17

No. Even if it is, it's two weeks after, or two weeks before. Okay. We went over this, we went over this. I

Darcy 32:23

have my tickets to New York already.

Huck 32:24

We, I'm pretty sure it's, we went, we went over this. So it's like, yeah, I think

Darcy 32:27

Okay.

Huck 32:28

Bayou after.

Darcy 32:29

Okay.

Huck 32:30

Yeah. Um, and then what else is there?

Darcy 32:34

Uh, well, I know that we have our grant winner. What was it? What are we calling that?

Huck 32:40

Oh yeah. Our, our, the wood, the Woodcut Bootcamp Alumni award.

Darcy 32:44

Yes.

Huck 32:45

Kerri Wright

Darcy 32:46

Yes.

Huck 32:46

From Australia will be coming in to Evil Prints at the spider hole and doing an edition.

Darcy 32:52

That's right. And this was te Tell everybody about this award. This was our first year doing it this last summer.

Huck 32:58

Uh, we have, uh, a patron that is, uh, funding publication of the, we choose who the award winner is, who did the best print? During bootcamp, Wood Cut Bootcamp. So they'll come back. And that's in March. So we got a busy spring. So Kerri's coming all the way from Australia to do that.

Darcy 33:16

That's right. That's gonna be awesome.

Huck 33:17

And if she's listening, ah, she better be ready to rock when she gets there. Rock. I know she will. She's cool.

Darcy 33:24

She was up until the. She was up for over 24 hours.

Huck 33:30

Oh. Way over to finish her.

Darcy 33:32

I get tons of, it was, it's gorgeous.

Huck 33:33

It was great.

Darcy 33:34

Mm-hmm.

Huck 33:34

Um, so we got that. Plus we have a, a major secret undertaking that we can't talk about right now. That will, that is insane. We can't talk about it. And it is going on and it is a life changing professional development that is happening. Somewhere in, in a very cool spot in downtown St. Louis that it'll be talked about here at some point, but not for a while.

Darcy 34:01

Mm-hmm.

Huck 34:02

Um, so we've got that. Uh, we have to, and well, we, you and I have to be in Kansas City because of that thing to, uh, be involved in some major, um,

Darcy 34:15

procurement of

Huck 34:16

procurement of.

Darcy 34:18

Special,

Huck 34:19

a equipment shit, ton of lithography stones, which, see, I'm dying to say something, but we can't, we can't.

Darcy 34:26

I'm gonna have to edit that out. I'm not,

Huck 34:27

no, you can put that in there. You can put that in there.

Darcy 34:30

Okay.

Huck 34:31

Leave that. But that's all I'm saying. Okay. All right. What else?

Darcy 34:35

Um, what else you got for us?

Huck 34:38

What am I listening to?

Darcy 34:39

What's, what's on the turntables right now?

Huck 34:46

Turntables, plural is right, because I have three right now, thousand. I have three different systems set up right now. Um, I am in a complete. Year long Steely Dan obsession to where I'm collecting like white label promos and Japanese copies of first editions of their records, which are fantastic. I'm also really. Into the funk singer, the Goddess Queen of Funk, Betty Davis, who was married to Miles Davis, and no one knows who she is, but she was the baddest motherfucker ever in the world.

Darcy 35:28

Hmm.

Huck 35:29

Betty Davis. You should check her out

Darcy 35:31

the best song or album by her. If people wanna check her out,

Huck 35:33

they C, they say I'm different.

Darcy 35:35

Okay. They say, I'm different by Betty Davis.

Huck 35:39

Singer 19, 19 75, maybe three, four, it is unbelievable. Like you put that on you. You can't believe she was never famous because she was so dirty, like, oh my God, you have no idea. Darcy. You should see, oh, there's a song on there called, he was a big old Freak. She's like, I used to beat him with my chain and he liked it, you know?

Darcy 36:08

Oh my God, that's really great. I love it.

Huck 36:11

I'll play it for you here in a second. But like, and she was unbelievable, gorgeous. She dated Hendricks. She was Miles Davis' wife. Oh. Uh, she dated Eric Clapton. She had a huge Afro. Was 10 feet tall, looked like a model, sang like a, the dirtiest, rast woman you've ever heard in your life. Nobody sounded like that. I've been so obsessed with her. Prince. Owes her, and I love Prince. He owes her a debt, and I think he, he acknowledged it at one point. So there's a point, she, there's nobody like her. She only made like four records. That was it.

Darcy 36:45

Really?

Huck 36:46

Yeah. And they just soured the, the industry soured on her, or she soured on the industry and, mm-hmm. There may have been some drugs involved. I don't know. But they, they just were reissued all of'em. And if you can find one of the original albums, they're worth a fucking fortune because they just, all the, my friends that own record stores, like, they never see those come through there. Mm-hmm. They just, people that have them, there was so few of'em pressed or people that had'em, kept them'cause, and they're unreal.

Darcy 37:14

So can you stream that now?

Huck 37:16

Yes. She's on iTunes. She can get it on iTunes. Yeah. Betty Davis. Uh, one of the first songs on like her first record is, if I'm in Luck I might get picked up. Like, it's like unbelievable. It is just out there. Songs. Alright, that's it. What, uh, art I'm looking at.

Darcy 37:36

Yeah.

Huck 37:38

Um, I, this just popped up yesterday, obviously. I'm looking at Durer all the time. Mm-hmm. And I was so bummed out and depressed because in your, in your like feed now, you know, we're, we're seeing all this terrible politics and stuff and what's going on and just the outrageousness of it all and it's really a drag. And I try to stay away from social media as much as I can, but I can't completely.

Darcy 38:04

No, it's hard

Huck 38:05

because of what we do.

Darcy 38:06

Right.

Huck 38:07

I saw. A woman who's an art professor somewhere, and she was at the New York Public Library and she had her phone and she was filming and she came up on Durer's. Triumphant arch of Maximilian, like one of the biggest world cuts that's ever been made. And I, I saw it and there was some mu it was set to some music or something, and it's one of the, I think it was originally a TikTok reel mm-hmm. Or something, a TikTok video. And like I saw it and I just, I was sitting there and like, I hadn't looked at the triumphant arch in a while.

Darcy 38:40

Mm-hmm.

Huck 38:40

And it made me, it made me smile because, and, but it also made me like. Fuck, I gotta get to work, man, because that dude, every time I, that's

Darcy 38:50

where the a foot by eight footprint came from.

Huck 38:51

Yeah, yeah. All of it. I mean, it's, it, it is like, I'm competing with dead guys, man. It like mm-hmm. You just see that still in your like, fuck, look at that thing. Not

Darcy 39:03

enough yet.

Huck 39:04

Look at that thing, you know?

Darcy 39:06

Yeah.

Huck 39:07

So, yeah, so I, I read, I always loved it. It's not rediscovered. I'm re into it. I'm about to start on another obsession with doers Triumph at Arch of Maximilian. So I was, I've been looking at that. I'm trying to think of other artists I've been looking at. I really love Julie Moi's work. I love her stuff. Um, what else? Oh, there's this, okay. It, it's a confluence. Confluence, confluence of two of the things we've talked about, well, one we've talked about, so I got this book

Darcy 39:44

mm-hmm.

Huck 39:45

Called, uh, steely Dan. It's about steely Dan quantum criminals and the one, and so anybody knows anything about steely Dan's. Songs, music, they have a lot of characters in there. Mm-hmm. That they name. They're doing bad things in the songs. They're, people don't realize, people think that shit's music or easy listening, soft rock, whatever those songs are. Dirty and dark man, and, and you read the lyrics. They're insane. Well, quantum Criminals is this great book. You can get it on Amazon, and I can't remember her name, but there's an artist. Every, every chapter is based on a character from a steely dance song. And for since 1979, you've had these names in your head, but she painted portraits of the characters. Joan Lamay. Oh, Joan LaMay. She does these just great paintings that are on the ti on the, throughout the book of like, you know, Michael McDonald, she did a great portrait of Michael, the singer Michael McDonald's. They're amazing. And if you're a Steely Dan fan, maybe it's one of those things, you have to be a Steely Dan fan to really appreciate'em. But she's great. I You can follow her on, on Instagram. I did. Joan Lamay, check her out.

Darcy 41:00

Quantum Criminals, Ramblers Wild Gamblers, and other soul survivors from the songs of Steely Dan.

Huck 41:06

There you go.

Darcy 41:07

Alright,

Huck 41:07

look it up on Amazon. I got my copy and it's fantastic. Uh, books I'm reading. Yeah. What books you into right now? I'm, I'm reading that book, quantum Criminals, but I'm also reading a book called Hitler's Last 24 Hours. Oh yeah. And it's fucking. Crazy. They were having fucking orgies and shit in that bunker. All of his people, like they were just what? Oh yeah. It was just like the last days of

Darcy 41:34

they were like, fuck it. We're going

Huck 41:35

down. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Um, so I'm reading that. That's crazy.

Darcy 41:41

Who's that by?

Huck 41:42

Oh, I can't remember the name of the guy's name. Look it up. Look it up right now. Hitler's last day. We could put a link to it, right?

Darcy 41:49

Oh, it is Hitler's last day, minute by minute.

Huck 41:51

Minute by minute.

Darcy 41:52

Jonathan Mayo and Emma Craigy.

Huck 41:55

It's fantastic.

Darcy 41:58

All righty.

Huck 41:59

All right. That's what I'm, that's what I'm into right now.

Darcy 42:02

That does look good. All well. Any other updates

Huck 42:06

for us? That's it. There's nothing else.

Darcy 42:07

Thanks for updating us.

Huck 42:09

Yeah, more soon.

Darcy 42:11

More soon. I wanna get back and talk about some of your work. Soon I wanna talk about The Great Warmadillo.

Huck 42:19

Okay, cool.

Darcy 42:21

And as a reminder, go to our website, www.evilprints.com. Go to the heading. Hit podcast. If you want to submit a question for Ask Huck anything, we'll be recording that coming up soon.

Huck 42:34

Yeah.

Darcy 42:34

So get your questions in.

Huck 42:35

Yeah.

Darcy 42:36

And we will catch you next time.

Huck 42:37

Yeah.

Darcy 42:38

Bye.

Huck 42:39

Yeah,

Darcy 42:40

say bye, Huck. Do I have to

Huck 42:41

do it.

Darcy 42:43

Just be be polite.

Huck 42:45

Bye-bye Damnit.

Darcy 42:47

Bye-bye. Damn it.